What are you reading in July?
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Posted 2012-06-30 9:02 PM (#3546)
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New month,new thread! We are half way through the year,so how are we doing with the Grand Masters challenge? I am in the middle of Lester Del Rey's Police your Planet,the hardest of hard boiled stuff,so cynical and down beat.I have not been at all familiar wih pulp,so this is an eye opener to how the equivalent to hard boiled crime fiction was making a thinly veiled indictment of police corruption.Raymond Chandler,only a decade before had had his famous detective Philip Marlowe beaten up by the corrupt cops,and here the hero himself is a corrupt cop! One ,however who yearns for jusice,but has been beaten down by life.But I think he is now going to go into Clint Eastwood mode,and will set out to clead up Deadwood,sorry,Marsport..But as I said elsewhere, this Del Rey book is nearer Mickey Spillane than Raymond Chandler,cruder and more violent.Police your Planet is free on Project Gutenberg if you want to try it.
After the Del Rey,I intend to read Haldeman's The Forever War,then I will read some Andre Norton,so as to hopefully finish the challenge this month,or early August.

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Posted 2012-07-01 10:32 AM (#3549 - in reply to #3546)
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I've finished Hothouse for the GMRC, started Dragonflight and continuing with Far Out

I'm also still reading Darkover, and Sheckley's Immortality Inc.

Who knows what else may crop up this month. Perhaps Embassytown and Drowned Cities and Planesrunner. I do need to get back on track with the outstanding Hugo winners I have left.
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Posted 2012-07-01 10:49 AM (#3550 - in reply to #3546)
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I have a lot of school reading to do this month, some of this includes Icelandic sagas. I've decided to read Anderson's Hrolf Kraki's Saga in conjunction with those for the GMRC. I picked up Lord Foul's Bane (Donaldson) and Changeling (YA by Delia Sherman) at a used bookstore. I want to read Changeling and pass it on to my step-niece. Right now, I'm reading Chabon's The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay for the third time. I'm teaching as an example of historiographic metafiction in the fall. I'm also reading Snow Crash for fun. I'm about 200 pages into it. I'm enjoying his commentary on the fake and plastic America.
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Posted 2012-07-02 3:08 AM (#3554 - in reply to #3550)
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Aha, @Rhonda, and I clean forgot: there is also Oman Ra for the Outside the Norm reading. I've ordered it from Amazon, normal shipping, so the chances are I'll only get it towards the end of July.
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Posted 2012-07-04 9:50 AM (#3573 - in reply to #3546)
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@Emil, I ordered Oman Ra and the Master and the Margarita yesterday in preparation.

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Posted 2012-07-04 11:43 AM (#3575 - in reply to #3573)
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I'm just pages away from finishig Desolation Island, (Aubrey/Maturin Book 5) by Patrick O'Brian and I'll be reading book 6, The Fortune of War soon.  I'm going to hold off on it and finish Far Out first.  Then, I think I'll read To Your Scattered Bodies Go by Philip Jose Farmer.  That will be for the GMRC and move me a bit farther in my Hugo list.
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Posted 2012-07-04 1:52 PM (#3577 - in reply to #3546)
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I am really annoyed that my library has none of Farmers books at all! I am starting to complile a little list,so at Xmas if I get some cash or vouchers I will buy a few Hugo winners to read.Only about 25 of the Hugo winners are available through the library,so I better start saving the pennies if I am to make much progress with the list. Damn it ..I really fancied the Riverworld books.Read The Lovers many decades ago when it was trendy.Wonder what it reads like now....
At present I am reading Clive Barker's Abarat.it does have echoes of Alice in Wonderland,as Candy is swept away to Abarat,an archipelago where each island is permanently fixed at a different hour of the clock.It is all a bit dreamlike,or indeed a nightmare,much darker than Alice,with some pretty nasty ,scary villains for a junior book-or is it more YA?Quite long,450 pages,but it reads surprisingly quickly.
Next will be Maus,by Art Spiegelman. I know nothing about his history or background (try to come completely fresh to books),but I have to assume the use of animals will be a distancing strategy from the horrific tale....

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Posted 2012-07-05 2:29 AM (#3584 - in reply to #3546)
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I am reading Downbelow Station and quite enjoying it. I am a slow reader so hopefully I finish that before its due back at the library (remember when libraries let you renew books??). After that it will probably be something from the Locus Best SF Novels of All-Time (too much Henlein!), which is the list I am currently trying to finish (its the shortest!).


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Posted 2012-07-05 2:31 AM (#3585 - in reply to #3584)
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htaccess I am reading


LOL @htaccess, that's good to know
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Posted 2012-07-05 2:39 AM (#3586 - in reply to #3546)
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@Emil: That's me wanting to use the "rich editor", the only way to invoke it is to submit and then edit. Not sure the "rich" editor is worth it though its a huge pain because every time you paste something it "remembers" the markup of the thing you are pasting (eg if its an h2) and there is no way to clear the formatting except going into html edit mode and removing the dumb tags, in other words its being a computer.

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Posted 2012-07-05 1:36 PM (#3599 - in reply to #3546)
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@htaccess - The Locus Best SF is my favourite list,because I have actually read 24 out of the 53 books! lol.I am nowhere near in any other list,doing pretty badly on Nebula,and having read nothing in the PDK list,not even one.All in all.it is a pretty sad showing,I hate to even look at my reading statistics! lol

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Posted 2012-07-05 2:05 PM (#3600 - in reply to #3599)
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dustydigger - 2012-07-05 1:36 PM @htaccess - The Locus Best SF is my favourite list,because I have actually read 24 out of the 53 books! lol.I am nowhere near in any other list,doing pretty badly on Nebula,and having read nothing in the PDK list,not even one.All in all.it is a pretty sad showing,I hate to even look at my reading statistics! lol

@dd:  If you want to improve your stats fast look for the books with a high number of award nominations and list inclusions (red and black numbers on the covers).  You can bump up several stats at a time if you pick something like American Gods which has 7 noms and is on 4 best lists or Rendezvous with Rama with 5 and 7 respectively.  The WWEnd Top Nominated Books list is a good source for the big stats books.

By the way, if you don't like looking at your reading stats, DO NOT, under any circumstances, look at Englebrecht's stats.  I said DON'T look!

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Posted 2012-07-05 3:19 PM (#3601 - in reply to #3546)
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Dusty brings up an interesting point for those of us who don't have Engelbrecht's stats and are not working on a particular list--What lists are you doing the best in through your natural choices?

For example, my highest marks are between 30% and 40% and those are in Hugo Winners, the Guardian List and the NPR list. I'm not sure how much overlap there is in the books, but in my opinion, this does seem to summarize my reading habits.
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Posted 2012-07-05 4:15 PM (#3603 - in reply to #3546)
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LOL Dave,of course I HAD to look at Engelbrecht's stats,and nearly fainted! lol Considering I had no access at all to SF for 10 years,and barely read in the next 30 .I am claiming some mitigating circumstances,but WOW Engelbrecht,I must bow in awe.Now,reading four a month,because I read a host of other genres,I can finally catch up up when I am about 101 years old!
(desperating looking around for some excuse) Ah,but Engelbrecht,my crime novel section is over 1000 strong,can you match that( not sure if Engelbrecht has even heard of crime fiction,never mind read it.If he has ,I am an aficionado of vintage crime,Chandler and other hardboiled authors!

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Posted 2012-07-05 4:52 PM (#3608 - in reply to #3546)
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Hmmm... I hadn't looked at those stats for a while. Without trying, I've got 72% on the Locus All-Time list and 56% on the banned books lists, maybe because both are relatively short lists. Hugo winners, Pringle's 100, SF Masterworks, and the NPR list are creeping above 40%. (Pringle's the only one I've been consciously using as a guide, along with the Cawthorn/Moorcock Fantasy 100, for which I've read lots of older works not on WWEnd.)

Is it July already? Just finished The Paradox Men by Charles Harness (little-known classic from Pringle's list; I reviewed it if anyone's interested) and the August 1952 issue of Galaxy, with Pohl/Kornbluth (final installment of Gravy Planet, aka The Space Merchants), James Blish ("Surface Tension"!), Leiber, and Sheckley!

Currently reading Embassytown. I wasn't sure at first, but it started to click about a third of the way through, and now I very much look forward to seeing how it plays out.

Not sure about the rest of the month. I'm looking at some of the earlier women fantasy writers (Evangeline Walton, Francis Stevens, Charlotte Perkins Gilman), Farah Mendlesohn's "A Short History of Fantasy", and "A Handmaid's Tale." Decisions! And I got my copy of "Omon Ra", which looks quite interesting....
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Posted 2012-07-06 1:41 AM (#3615 - in reply to #3546)
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I read the Harness,Blish, and of course the cynically hilarious Space Merchants back in the 60s,they need a reread,but when is there the time? Sadly,Herland isnt available to me in my library system,so the only work by Gilman I've read is the creepily disturbing The Yellow Wallpaper.It gave off,though very different in other ways,that aura found in James's Turn of the Screw.
Atwood is on my to read list.Ha! I finally produced and posted my reading list.It is limited by what is available through my library,but it is still nearly 90 books!
These are the books actually sitting there on my shelf looking at me reproachfully,
Joe Haldeman - The Forever War trilogy
Richard Matheson - I am Legend
Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse 5
Kate Wilhelm - Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang
China Mieville - City and the City
Roger Zelazny - Dream Master(reread)
Isaac Asimov - I,Robot (reread)
Ursula Le Guin - The Dispossessed
Kim Stanley Robinson - Red Mars
J G Ballard - The Drowned World
At 2 or 3 a month,thats me sorted for the rest of the year.


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Posted 2012-07-06 7:31 AM (#3617 - in reply to #3546)
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I've had a rocky start to July, what with my disliking all the books I've read so far:

Kiln People (2002) by David Brin was disappointing.  The premise that you could make specialized copies of yourself in order to do such things as study, scut work, extreme sports, casual sex, etc., to return 24 hours later to deliver memories before decaying was promising, but the book was a long flabby mess.  Featuring a detective using multiple copies of himself to solve a set of interlocking crimes, the book veered back and forth between noir and comic excess before finally degenerating into a farrago of mystical pseudo-science.

The Hunger Games (Hunger Games 1) (2008) by Suzanne Collins.  Perhaps the best thing to say here was that the prose wasn't actively grating and that, by and large, the pace of the book moved along.  I realize that this is a YA, but both the world building and the science were over-the-top ridiculous.  Other than that, it was a reasonably engaging ripoff of Battle Royale.

Catching Fire (Hunger Games 2) (2009) by Suzanne Collins.  I'm really the wrong audience for these books.  After I read "I really can't think about kissing when I've got a rebellion to incite" early in the book, it took a supreme effort of will to keep reading...  Everything was worse than in the previous book, even setting aside the female protagonist's endless angst over which boy she liked better.

Mockingjay (Hunger Games 3) (2010) by Suzanne Collins.  This is the book in which both the protagonist and the reader fully realize that the protagonist has practically no redeeming qualities as a human being.  Histrionic throughout, we eventually and painfully reach what is largely a non-ending.  It'll be a loooong time before I inflict another one of these teen romance books upon myself!

Fortunately, July is looking up!  I'm currently enjoying a Calvino, and have a reread of Pelevin's Omon Ra to look forward to.  Also, I think I'm going to start accelerating my Grand Master challenge reading.  I'm halfway along (6 read), but I think that I want to read books by most, or perhaps all of the Grand Masters this year.  I'm also got some books on the Cawthorne & Moorcock best fantasy list that I want to get to this month.  It sounds like everyone has great stuff in the pipeline!

@Rhonda:  Hrolf Kraki's Saga is wonderful!!  If you really like that one, you would probably like Anderson's The Broken Sword as well.  I've always been curious about eddas - what are you reading, and how are you enjoying them?  A few years ago, I read an Icelandic saga novelization, Styrbiorn the Strong by E.R. Eddison (author of the great The Worm Ouroboros) and liked it, but not as well as his other fiction.  Do you ever go to the IAFA conventions in Florida?

@dustydigger:     I've read the obligatory smattering of crime fiction:  Sherlock Holmes, some Agatha Christie, In Cold Blood, The Talented Mr. Ripley, but not too much else.  Sadly, I've never read Chandler.   I think you mentioned Ernest Bramah's detective Max Carrados elsewhere, how do you like those stories?  BTW, The Lovers holds up poorly - I read it a few years ago for the first time and thought it was weak, even considering the era it was written in.

@Scott:  I haven't read Harness' The Paradox Men, but I have read and loved his Cybele, With Bluebonnets, published in 2002, almost fifty years after The Paradox Men.  It's a great novel, beautifully and delicately written.  I'm tempted to read The Paradox Men, but it sounds like it wouldn't compare to the writing of a mature Harness.

 

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Posted 2012-07-06 7:36 AM (#3618 - in reply to #3546)
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For July, I need to finish this Hornblower omnibus before it self-destructs (it's a library ebook, I think that's how they work.) I need to read all of this year's shorter Hugo works. So far I've managed one novella and one short story, so still a way to go.

I'd like to try to catch up on my GMRC a bit. Or at least tread water. Maybe combine it with the Hugo list, which means Way Station, Forever Peace, The Dispossessed or Blackout, I think.

I also like the sound of Omon Ra, but I have no idea if I'm going to be able to find the the time for it.

And I have a strange hankering for golden age crime fiction at the moment. I expect I'll be able to cure it with one book. Maybe Dorothy L Sayers or Ngaio Marsh, although I quite fancy a locked-room mystery by John Dickson Carr, if I can find any.

Obviously, although I have a huge pile of real and virtual books to read, a good many of these are not yet in my possession.
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Posted 2012-07-06 8:14 AM (#3620 - in reply to #3617)
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@Engelbrecht - remind me not to read David Brin's Kil'n Time ! So far I have only read The Postman,long before the film,and cant say I was enthralled.Perhaps I needed to be American,remembering the glories of the Pony Express and the like? Please someone tell me The Uplift series is better,since I have Startide Rising on the TBR?
I have been stubbornly resisting Suzanne Collins books since the start.Again it seems a case of young,inexperienced readers coming across a concept which blows their mind,and word of mouth,and then hype does the rest.They never realize that dystopian books have been around a century and more! I certainly remember my son when he was a teenager excitedly expounding on the Matrix,and I didnt have the heart to tell him it was all old hat to science fiction readers.Its a good thing though,I am sure some of these young readers will be curious to read other,hopefully better books.But I wish the publishers of YA would give dystopian fiction a rest.One YA book I have enjoyed recently was Laini Taylor's Daughter of Smoke and Bone. Very good.
Tut tut,Engelbrecht,you havent read Chandler.Probably you would prefer Hammett,but these are classics as far as I am concerned.
The Bramah book was only so-so,though it is fun to read all the period piece items which were once normal everyday matters of fact.Everyone is always going off on the train,and writing letters,so it takes ages to gather the basic facts in the crimes.Everyone moves at avery leisurely pace.
Had a feeling about Farmer,that he was a case of style over substance
@Dr Nefario,I have read every Sayers and Marsh books,and at the moment am methodically reading Allingham's Campion tales.Tiger in the Smoke and More Work for the Undertaker are particular favourites.On the shelf waiting to be read are Look to the Lady and Mystery Mile. The John Dickson Carr/Carter Dickson books are always good fun,particular favourites are Hag's Nook,and The Hollow Man (US Three Coffins)They always start off with some macabre,atmospheric settings,which are all explained away later,but are enjoyable.Love Doctor Fell,who apparently is very like G K Chesterton.Oh there's another favourite,the Father Brown stories,especially the first book.
Oh dear,looks like I'll be moving the Golden Age crime up the list
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Posted 2012-07-06 8:30 AM (#3621 - in reply to #3546)
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@Dusty and Dr. Nefario, I've been thinking about Marsh recently too. I'd like to re-read the theatre mysteries together--Light Thickens, Killer Dolphin, Night at the Vulcan.
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Posted 2012-07-06 9:56 AM (#3622 - in reply to #3621)
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@Dusty I found the Uplift series great entertainment.

I'm reading Apocalypse of the Dead - as interlude. So far much, much better plotting and more mature writing than McKinney's first Dead City.

Also started with Planesrunner, my GMRC winning review choice. I am beginning to enjoy the YA's!

Then still going forward with the Darkover series, with The Winds of Darkover, also thus far appearing much more mature than the previous.

In order to catch up with the classics, Theodore Sturgeon's More Than Human, utterly enthralling.

And The Skylark of Space. Duquesne is a real, pulpy super-villian!

Finally still reading Knight's Far Out as part of the GMRC. I've finished Dragonflight last night, thoroughly enjoyed it, but won't be a favorite. The time travelling bit is ... well ... just so implausible. But I would like to finish this particular trilogy.

I'm afraid, not a lot of literary SF this month. Next month I have a few of those lined up. Depending on delivery schedule Oman Ra still lurks for July.
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Posted 2012-07-06 12:24 PM (#3624 - in reply to #3546)
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@ Eric - More than Human was Sturgeon at his best.Darn it still havent got round to Doc Smith,but the Skylark books are on the list!.
@ Rhonda. - Light Thickens was one of Marsh's best.And the title happens to be one of my all time favourite Shakespeare quotes;

Light thickens, and the crow
Makes wing to the rooky wood;
Good things of day begin to droop and drowse
While night's dark agents to their preys do rouse.

Brilliant! Some of my favourite Marsh's are Clutch of Constables,Death in a White Tie, A Surfeit of Lampreys,and Singing in the Shrouds-and many more.Preferred her books to Agatha Christie
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Posted 2012-07-06 5:21 PM (#3626 - in reply to #3546)
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@Dusty Enjoy the Allingham. I think Look to the Lady might be my favorite, but Mystery Mile is great too. Sayer is my current favorite of the big 4, but that often changes.
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Posted 2012-07-06 6:06 PM (#3628 - in reply to #3546)
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@engelbrecht, dusty: Harness was new to me, and I was surprised how much I liked The Paradox Men. It's like a coherent A. E. Van Vogt novel. The "Rings" omnibus has additional novels from '68, '81, and '99, so it's good to hear that he was still producing quality books into the 2000s. I'll have to explore further at some point...

Seeing lots of good stuff on peoples' reading lists: Scattered Bodies, Drowned World, Downbelow Station are among the all-time favorites. And Planesrunner was a lot of fun...

If Kiln People was disappointing, that may be why I've seen a couple of reviews referring to Brin's new one as a return to form...

@dusty: If you are willing to read electronically, Gilman's Herland can be had for free from Project Gutenberg in various formats. "The Yellow Wallpaper" is definitely a classic...

I'm hoping to finish Embassytown tonight. It might give Among Others some competition for my Hugo vote...
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Posted 2012-07-07 2:07 AM (#3630 - in reply to #3628)
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@Rhonda - I love Sayers,major Lord Peter Wimsy fan.I have had various copies of Gaudy Night and Busman's Honeymoon since first reading them in mid sixties,read them countless times.Also loved Murder Must Advertise,hilarious.Sayers had worked in the business so she had first hand knowledge.Might be old fashioned,but the hype industry is still very reconizable.Did you ever see the Brit TV version of the Harriet and Peter tales?I really liked the actor Edward Petherbridge in the part of Peter.They kept all the dialogue,but Petherbridge spoke it in a quiet rational way,which totally offset any ''silly ass'' tendencies which were prevalent with other interpretations.Check him out !
I am trying to reread the Allinghams in order,since it is about half a century since I first read her.More Work for the Undertaker is my all time favourite.It intrigues me and puzzles me even after repeated readings.Love the Palindrome family- though the name is a bit improbable.Reminds me of the story of someone deriding Anthony Trollope's Barchester Towers saying he could accept someone called Quiverfull,or someone having 14 children,but the two together was a bit much! (anyone confused? check out Psalm127:3-5 lol)
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Posted 2012-07-07 6:56 AM (#3631 - in reply to #3546)
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@Dusty, Yes, I saw the BBC (here Masterpiece Theatre) Wimseys when they came out in the 80s. I have the DVDs and re-watch them about once a year. When you finish reading your Allinghams, you should watch the BBC versions of Campion with Peter Davison. They are very well done.
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Posted 2012-07-07 11:34 AM (#3633 - in reply to #3546)
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I seem to have come home today with Omon Ra, so I guess I'm in for that after all. (Also got some cheap Dorothy L Sayers and a s/h copy of Michael Chabon's Kavalier and Clay, so not a bad day.)
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Posted 2012-07-07 1:05 PM (#3634 - in reply to #3633)
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Yep, sounds like a good day to me.
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Posted 2012-07-07 2:42 PM (#3640 - in reply to #3546)
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@ Rhonda - Yes I watched them of course,but the actor portraying Campion didnt seem right to me,so never watched them again..I also was a bit disappointed in the Inspector Alleyn dramas oo.I didnt like Alleyn he was a bit dry and soulless for my tastes.But Fox was spot on for me,I thought he was wonderful.Perhaps Alleyn wasnt handsome or charismatic enough,or at least compared with the pictures in my head!
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Posted 2012-07-07 3:04 PM (#3642 - in reply to #3546)
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@Dusty, I agree about Alleyn--not charismatic enough. I did like the actress playing Agatha Troy.

However, I loved the impishness that Davidson had as Campion, and I thought the actor playing Lugg was perfect.
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Posted 2012-07-08 3:16 PM (#3657 - in reply to #3546)
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Ah,dear old Maggers,of whom Albert once said,he has the courage of his (previous) convictions!.Thinking back,I think I couldnt accept Peter Davison as Campion because I still had him in my mind as Dr Who.
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Posted 2012-07-10 7:26 PM (#3700 - in reply to #3546)
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Three books (well one is an audio book of sorts).
- Trying to finish Asimov's Foundation series.
- Just started Guns, Germs & Steel (I know not SciFi or horror but great, informative read)
- And I have been hooked on Dreadtime stories, great audio horror - http://bit.ly/L6hjeD

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Posted 2012-07-14 1:13 PM (#3736 - in reply to #3546)
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Finished Spiegelman's Maus,a brave harrowing book.whose horrific tale is barely softened by ist use of animal characters.Also finished Andre Norton's Plague Ship,an early book of hers about space traders who visit a planet for trade,and pick up what maybe a plague,so no space station will let them land.Light fun read,which may possibly be juvenile,and I enjoyed the details of the planet they visited.Then I was annoyed to see it wasnt in the data base,so I couldnt add it for the GM challenge! So now I think I will replace it with Time Traders,sounds like fun.Will get to Haldeman's Forever War next week,what should have been my 12th,now my 11th challenge read.
I will relax tomorrow reading Moore and Gibbons Watchmen,and some volumes of Natsui Takaya's Fruits Basket.
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Finished Andre Norton's The Time Traders,about a young criminal who is forced into a secret group who are investigating why the Russians have strange weapons which seem to be futuristic-yet were discovered in the distant past.Non stop adventure tale,where our hero has quite a tough time of it.I enjoyed it,you never knew what was going to happen next.I think I will continue with the next 2 books,which are on Project Gutenberg.Its great fun reading these old books.This makes eleven books read for the challenge,only Joe Haldeman's Forever War left to read to complete it!.
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Posted 2012-07-19 2:25 AM (#3803 - in reply to #3546)
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Finished:
Malzberg - Beyond Apollo - https://www.worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?id=456
Shocking and controversial critique of NASA. All round Freudian twaddle, but Malzberg makes good use of the unreliable narrator. Could have done with a little less explicit sex, but then again, it is Freudian.

Sturgeon - Some Of Your Blood - https://www.worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?id=3512
An epistolary and horror, and surprisingly brilliant. The Freudian influences are evident but not as overt as in Venus Plus X. The first half of the book had me reminiscing about Gene Wolfe. The second half is much more revealing and the story suffers a little from that. I would have liked it even more if Sturgeon remained obscure in the telling. Nonetheless, beautifully crafted and emotionally disturbing. George is a sympathetic and grotesque individual and the horror of it was that I come to accept and embrace him for everything that he is. A favorite and a marvelous re-calibration of the vampire theme.

Doc Smith - The Skylark of Space - https://www.worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?id=1411
Pulp. Doc Smith. Bigger than life super hero and super villain and love interest. The action is great, but some passages were an irksome drag to trudge through. Still, a pretty good space adventure. I enjoyed it more than Triplanetary.

Reading:
Vonnegut - The Sirens of Titan (fun, fun, fun, if there is something like this in dark sarcasm and cynicism).
Wolfe - An Evil Guest (a much, much, much misunderstood and misinterpreted novel. Will be another favorite depending the ending).
Burroughs - The Warlord of Mars (a lot better than The Gods of Mars, and almost as good as The Princess of Mars.)
Knight - Far Out (still reading it slowly, story by story. I want it to be the last book I finish for the GMRC)
Bradley - The Spell Sword (still continuing with the Darkover series, but it's slowly losing some of its initial appeal. It needs something new now.)
Vance - The Languages of Pao (for the GMRC and really looking forward to this with anticipation. Still only on the first few pages.)

Confessions:
Nothing came of my plan to read The Drowned Cities and another of the 8 Hugo winners I still need to read. Maybe next month. Then again, they may still take the backseat to the Outside The Norm readings, or whatever else tickle my fancy.
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Posted 2012-07-19 7:52 AM (#3809 - in reply to #3546)
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I'm feeling like I should make my next book something that's not on any of my lists, too. It seems like quite a long time since I did that (although it isn't really). Right now, I'm thinking it might be Ready Player One by Ernest Cline, but I might have a different opinion by the time I finish Omon Ra and the Hugo shorts. Which I ought to get a move on with: it seems to be the 19th already.
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Posted 2012-07-19 7:56 AM (#3810 - in reply to #3617)
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@Engelbrecht, Hi, I was just trolling through this thread (to see what I said I was going to read in July) and saw that I missed your long post from July 6. I look a Viking Literature class in college and try to teach a saga or two whenever I can. During the Viking Lit class we read the Elder Edda, which I enjoyed very much, but I love Norse mythology and have since I was a kid.

 The class I'm teaching in the fall is a special topics course: Gender and Sexuality in the Medieval Lit. I'm teaching the Laxdaela Saga and the Saga of Ref the Sly. There's lots there about constructions of masculinity and femininity and men and women who challenge their prescribed gender roles, plus a lot of old-fashioned homophobia and misogyny--all in all, lots to work with

I've only read the first section of Hrolf Kraki's Saga, but so far, I think Anderson is doing a great job working with the source saga. His premise is to put the tale in the mouth of a Scandinavian wife of an English soldier living in England around the year 1000 (I know it is pre-Norman invasion). This allows him to fill out the gaps that are in the saga and explain a bit more about how the characters lived, how the religion worked, etc.

 I've never heard of the IAFA, but I just looked it up. It looks like an interesting organization that I need to explore more.

 Thanks.

 By the way, your review of Kiln People was spot on. it had oo much potential in the beginning--a great noir voice and then Pfft!

 

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Posted 2012-07-20 6:54 AM (#3828 - in reply to #3546)
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@Rhonda!  No worries!  I've always loved the Norse myths the best as well - sounds like it was a fun class.  Sounds like this fall will be good times as well! 

Glad you liked the review!  I have, I think, eight more books read to report on - I seem to read them faster than I can comment on them!  Ah well, maybe next week when I return from a weekend in the Sierra mountains.

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Posted 2012-07-20 2:01 PM (#3834 - in reply to #3546)
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I finished Embassytown, my first Mieville, and enjoyed it very much. A little tough at first, but I generally enjoy stories where I'm thrown into a complex alien society/situation and have to figure out what's going on, if it pays off in the end (which I think this does). The Le Guin influence is clear. I considered giving it my Hugo vote, but I'm going to stick with Walton. They're so different that it's hard to weigh them against each other, but Mieville probably doesn't need any more awards!

The last week was spent with Evangeline Walton's Mabinogion tetralogy. It's a novelization/retelling of the Welsh legends. Magic, monsters, telepathy, excursions to the underworld and Faery--I can see why this was republished during the '70s fantasy boom. There's a lot to chew on, but the theme Walton uses to tie it all together is the effect on society of a growing realization that men have a role in reproduction (brought to Britain by the New Tribes [the Normans?]), which leads to the institution of marriage and the diminishing of women's power in that society (it's not that simple, but that's the basic idea). Within the aristocracy, it brings up the possibility of a son inheriting from a father, instead of the old tradition of the family line passing to the son of a sister. I think the gender theme is more Walton than the original story, but it's quite fascinating. It's almost science fictional in it's portrayal of a culture that is quite alien to us as modern readers, challenging us to consider the ambiguous implications of "progress." I'd be curious whether it fits into what Rhonda is discussing above...

I also finished the Hugo short fiction nominees--some good ones, but overall it seems like an underwhelming year.
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Posted 2012-07-20 3:19 PM (#3837 - in reply to #3546)
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Yay! Just completed Joe Haldeman's The Forever War,and that completes my 12x12 Grand Masters challenge!.It was good fun,and I read 6 new authors,10 new books.Tiny drop in the ocean of my ignorance,but a start.
All you lazy guys (apart from Greg ) have you noticed that many of the ladies are well on the way to finishing the challenge?
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Posted 2012-07-22 5:56 PM (#3849 - in reply to #3546)
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I'm currently reading both Dan Simmons Hyperion and also Peter F. Hamilton's The Reality Dysfunction! I have a tendency to read 2 or 3 books at any given time yet I surprise myself by not getting confused. Hyperion is really amazing, I cannot begin to even explain how much I've fell in love with this book lately. As for The Reality Dysfunction, that too is an amazing book but it's slow going at the moment (only another 471 pages to go before The Neutronium Alchemist). I was browsing on Amazon and just happened to buy Ender's Game for my Kindle app; heard great things so hoping to start that once I finish my current Kindle eBook (World of Watches series by Russian writer Sergei Lukyanenko). Seems like my Amazon Kindle and Amazon wishlists are growing by the day, I keep seeing books and SF classics that I want so very much - story of my life, really!
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Posted 2012-07-23 3:28 AM (#3860 - in reply to #3849)
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@Scott, thanks for the Embassytown update. I'm reading it soon and am encouraged that you liked it. It means I will probably too

@Dusty, jeepers, it's meant to be 12 for the year, one per month! But well done on being the first (I think) doing so. That leaves you now with enough time to craft out reviews for those you haven't done yet

@scifigal84 Hyperion is one of my all-time favorites. Ideally I need to continue the series but I'm reticent and concerned that the following books won't live up to it. I really enjoyed the Reality Dysfunction, until the final book. But I won't spoil it for you - the series remains an incredible feat of imagination, and the science simply astonishing.

I'm also reading a stack of books together in a mad rush to finish a few before I leave South Africa and take up the farming business in Namibia. I'm reading Gene Wolfe's The Urth of the New Sun and am fully emerged, as if I've just recently finished The Book of the New Sun. Wolfe is pure magic.

Then also Joe McKinney's Bram Stoker winner Flesh Eaters - I'm enthralled with McKinney. From the first book of the none-series, he has developed his skill in leaps and bounds, and already the third installment is an improvement on the second, and a giant leap from the first. Yes, the story seems a little repetitive (which is a big challenge for zombie stories), but his characterizations are absorbing. I'm hoping that the people I like don't get eaten!

And so, also The Chessman of Mars, which is much more mature than the preceding. Heavens, the consumption of human flesh must have been quite a thing back in 1922.

Catching up on the Hugo winners, I've started with The Wanderer. There is already lovemaking within the first few pages.

GMRC: The Languages of Pao - so far quite enjoyable. Intrigued to see where it will end.

I'm also reading ad hoc a few short stories collections: Far Out, and the "best of" collections of Kutner, Moore and Kornbluth.
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Posted 2012-07-23 4:07 PM (#3861 - in reply to #3834)
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Scott,

Thanks for this. I read Walton’s Mabinogion long before I knew anything about Welsh social history. Now it seems like I need to reread Walton!

Be warned: I wrote my dissertation on English portrayals of the Irish and the Welsh in the Middle Ages. What you are referring to about gender sounds very plausible in Welsh culture. The Normans tried very hard to bring their brand of Catholicism to the Welsh, whose Catholicism was much more reflective their pagan roots. Therefore, issues of consanguinity and primogeniture were foremost in the Normans’ minds—not so much the Welshs’. They did not care so much if uncles married nieces, especially if it were her second marriage. Also, a man often married his brother’s widow as a matter of course. The Normans were against this practice. The Welsh had trial marriages, meaning that a man and woman could go through an informal ceremony and then live together for one year. If the wife was not pregnant by the end of the year (or had not had a child), then either party could leave the relationship and seek another one. Finally, inheritance did go through the sister (from the mother’s side if multiple marriages) in both Welsh and Irish cultures. The reasoning was this: a man and his sister might have different fathers, but they are pretty sure they are from the same womb. Likewise, the sister might not be faithful to her husband, but the brother is sure that her son is kin to him no matter who the father is. All of this points to a culture in which women held some power and sexual freedom. Of course, Marion Zimmer Bradley is famous for doing the same in The Mists of Avalon. These women are so different than the women you see in Anglo-Norman and French works.

If you are interested reading another modernization of The Mabinogion, you should read a trilogy by Tom Dietz: Soulsmith, Dreambuilder and Wordwright. (They are in the database.) These stories take place in Welch County, Georgia and incorporate Welsh and Irish myths into stories of a modern family dynasty. They are lots of fun.

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Posted 2012-07-24 5:26 PM (#3866 - in reply to #3546)
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Thanks, Rhonda. The idea that keeps coming up in Walton's version of the Mabinogion, and which drives much of the narrative (and tragedy), is the problems created for the "Old Tribes" as they assimilate the ideas of the "New Tribes." She may have exaggerated the differences to emphasize the conflict, since in her telling, the Old Tribes have never had marriage at all, nor do they have a conception of the role of the father in reproduction, and they are clearly pagan (I think), worshiping the "mother gods." When their kings start to get the idea that they can identify their sons, they begin to look for ways to pass on the kingship to them, instead of to their sisters' sons. Gwydion, heir to King Math, gets the bright idea of having a child with his sister, so that his son can be king, while not violating the ways of the Old Tribes. Hijinks ensue... I'll expand on this in my next blog post. Also, thanks for pointing out the connections to Bradley and Dietz. This is exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for in mapping out the fantasy genre...

Currently reading: Galaxy, September 1952 (F. L. Wallace's "Delay in Transit" is an interesting story looking at the problematic logistics of galaxy-spanning travel, with a pretty good early anticipation of a believable A.I. character; also stories by James Schmitz and a young Gordon R. Dickson), and more stories from The Weird anthology.

Next up: Omon Ra!
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Posted 2012-07-25 3:05 AM (#3875 - in reply to #3546)
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I finished Joe Haldeman's The Forever War this week,and was a bit disappointed,frankly.The time dilation was great,but the return visits to earth were very sketchy,and I didnt buy the notion that the world became totally homosexual as a response to overpopulation,then a 1000 years later they are all clones.
If this is an anti- war book,I suppose the tailing away of the war as an anticlimax while the hero was off in space is supposed to be ironic,but it didnt hit home for me.Best bits? The early scenes of training,and the Battle of the Alamo equivalent as the little band held out around the space ship.Perhaps more like the battle of Roarke's Drift with Michael Caine in the film Zulu. Clever idea to make the 21st century English the language for all spacemen,so they can communicate even when the normal language has drastically change. All in all though,not my cup of tea.

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Posted 2012-07-25 12:06 PM (#3879 - in reply to #3546)
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Thoroughly enjoyed H Beam Piper's short story Omnilingual.Archaeologists from earth are excavating the ruins of a Martian city 50,000 years after the martians died out.A university library brim full of books is discovered,but how will they ever work out the language.They need the equivalent of a Rosetta Stone to decode the language.Neat little solution.
I am progressing slowly but surely with Moore's Watchmen,but I have other non science fiction books to finish this month,including Tom's Midnight Garden, and Memoirs of a Geisha.
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Posted 2012-08-02 5:33 AM (#3899 - in reply to #3546)
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@Dusty I'm reading Omnilingual now in the collection Federation, along with Oomphel in the Sky. The collection I have has a riveting and absorbing introduction by Jerry Pournell and John Carr. They give a very broad overview and analysis of Piper's work. I was never aware of his far-reaching influence. Graveyard of Dreams is a beautiful title for a story - I'm hoping it lives up to the expectation. Omniligual is considered very influential with regards to archaeology of an extinct alien race. I love the way in which Piper adds scientific envy and grudgingness to the plot.
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Posted 2012-08-02 2:35 PM (#3900 - in reply to #3546)
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Yes,the academic infighting is probably verytrue to life.I am making the shortest of visits to WWEnd tonight.Had my operation yesterday,bandage now off,but after many months with only one functioning eye,its quite an effort to try to make them focus together now! I am seeing in the way I probably would after 5 double whiskeys,double vision and blurring ,streaming eyes,but hopefully I will be much better in a few days.Just popped in to say hello and start a new thread for August reads.
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Posted 2012-08-03 7:40 AM (#3915 - in reply to #3546)
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@Dusty, I'm sorry to hear about your eye troubles, but the operation sounds like good news.  Hopefully you'll be down to a single whiskey or less in a few days!

Back to Raymond Chandler, didn't he write some science fiction?

 

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Posted 2012-08-03 11:55 AM (#3918 - in reply to #3546)
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Or you could use it as an excuse to have the 5 double whiskies. When life hands you lemons I like to slice them up and put them in my Gin and Tonic. That said it must suck not being able to read hopefully there is some free audiobooks you can download to hold you over.

Trying to finish Embassytown. It got sidelined by 2 non-SF books; Tatjana Soli's The Lotus Eaters and Julian Barnes The Sense of an Ending.

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Posted 2012-08-03 3:40 PM (#3922 - in reply to #3546)
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Big improvement today,it is as if I had ,had only three whiskies instead of five,and tonight,for the first time in four months,I see only one really beautiful golden moon in the sky.Its been quite science fictionish seeing three moons in the sky! Tried a little reading today,managed about 20 pages of Simon Green's Daemons are forever,and about 30 of a n old Dick Francis favourite,but took it very slow.Also spent mny hours watching the Olympics.Two or three more days and I should be pretty much back to normal,
@ Engelbrecht,I have never come across any SF by Chandler.Presumably they were magazine tales from his pulp days?
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Posted 2012-08-03 4:28 PM (#3923 - in reply to #3546)
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You may be confusing him with A. Bertram Chandler who wrote a bunch of SF. I have three novels by him though for the life of me I can't remember a thing about them.
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Posted 2012-08-05 2:22 AM (#3928 - in reply to #3546)
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Yep, I'm pretty sure that I'm confusing Raymond with Bertram.  I did a quick search and found that ISFDB lists a few SF things by him - I wonder what they're like?  Another thing  I turned up was a letter containing a terrifically funny one paragraph SF parody he did (letter #6):

Did you ever read what they call Science Fiction? It’s a scream. It’s written like this: “I checked out with K19 on Abadabaran III, and stepped out through the crummaliote hatch on my 22 Model Sirus Hardtop. I cocked the timejector in secondary and waded through the bright blue manda grass. My breath froze into pink pretzels. I flicked on the heat bars and the Bryllis ran swiftly on five legs using their other two to send out crylon vibrations. The pressure was almost unbearable, but I caught the range on my wrist computer through the transparent cysicites. I pressed the trigger. The thin violet glow was icecold against the rust-colored mountains. The Bryllis shrank to half an inch long and I worked fast stepping on them with the poltex. But it wasn’t enough. The sudden brightness swung me around and the Fourth Moon had already risen. I had exactly four seconds to hot up the disintegrator and Google had told me it wasn’t enough. He was right.”

They pay brisk money for this crap?

 Interestingly, the date of the letter is later than some of his SF pieces... 

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Posted 2012-08-05 10:58 AM (#3934 - in reply to #3546)
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The three stories listed are, from their descriptions, more Horror/Fantasy than SF. Going through "The Bronze Door" causes people to disappear, the Snuff causes people to become invisible and the third is described as a Gothic Romance.
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Posted 2012-08-05 11:06 AM (#3936 - in reply to #3546)
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LOL,Engelbrecht,thanks for quoting the letter.Actually,that sounds quite a good story! No,no,only kidding,but quite a few writers would love to write that like that,if was toned down a little!
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